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Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

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Nintendo has explained why you can't download 18-rated games such as ZombiU from the Wii U eShop before 11pm.

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Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby NintendoForLife » 10 Dec 2012, 15:01

Can changing the Wii U clock bypass this restriction?
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Slinkington » 10 Dec 2012, 15:29

"German law which only allows for 18-rated content to be made available during the day."

I think you mean during the night.

I think a lot of people are overeating to this as it's not that inconvenient. HOWEVER. It's still a pretty stupid law. It will be irritating for certain people. We could argue that, why in England must we live by this German law..? They should take other countries laws into account, not just force theirs upon the other countries that are receiving this service, too.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Yirba » 10 Dec 2012, 15:31

I can understand why this may be in place for Germany, but I don't see why it has to affect other countries. We don't have such a law here in the UK. If it's because Nintendo of Europe cannot sell the games during this time period, how about making sales go through Nintendo UK or other Nintendo of Europe subsidiaries?
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Slinkington » 10 Dec 2012, 15:32

NintendoForLife wrote:Can changing the Wii U clock bypass this restriction?


No, as the service is apparently provided from Germany. This means they control it from their end.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby NintendoForLife » 10 Dec 2012, 15:34

This affects Nintendo TV as well.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby santaglause » 10 Dec 2012, 15:42

it's a freaking joke i'm 30
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby MummifiedCoconut » 10 Dec 2012, 15:45

I call BS, the law is only applicable for TV broadcasting. Parental protections/pins for adult rated content should be enough. All Nintendo is doing is being lazy by using a server block and playing it too safe (Guess they are scared in case little Adolf gets a hold of Zombie U and the Daily Heil screams "think of the children,why won't anyone think of the children") thus making life a pain for everyone else in Europe. :roll:
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Yirba » 10 Dec 2012, 15:49

I really hope Nintendo change this at some stage. Otherwise, it's just another reason not to get a Wii U. At this point, I'm extremely unconvinced about getting one, which is a shame, since this is the first Nintendo system I'm unwilling to buy.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby triforceguy1 » 10 Dec 2012, 16:01

MummifiedCoconut wrote:I call BS, the law is only applicable for TV broadcasting. Parental protections/pins for adult rated content should be enough. All Nintendo is doing is being lazy by using a server block and playing it too safe (Guess they are scared in case little Adolf gets a hold of Zombie U and the Daily Heil screams "think of the children,why won't anyone think of the children") thus making life a pain for everyone else in Europe. :roll:


How insensitive and rude.
And that may be for the UK, but it's different for Germany, in fact, some would say it is very strict in Germany

Also, I don't think there are Nintendo subsidiaries for every country in Europe, so there's just Nintendo of Europe, not Nintendo of UK, or Nintendo of Italty, just NoE. Though it makes me wonder, why is it we can download 18+ games on 3DS and Wii but not WiiU?

But if you desperately want to buy a 18+ game, 11pm ain't that late, or just buy it from a shop
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby MummifiedCoconut » 10 Dec 2012, 16:09

triforceguy1 wrote:
MummifiedCoconut wrote:I call BS, the law is only applicable for TV broadcasting. Parental protections/pins for adult rated content should be enough. All Nintendo is doing is being lazy by using a server block and playing it too safe (Guess they are scared in case little Adolf gets a hold of Zombie U and the Daily Heil screams "think of the children,why won't anyone think of the children") thus making life a pain for everyone else in Europe. :roll:


How insensitive and rude.
And that may be for the UK, but it's different for Germany, in fact, some would say it is very strict in Germany

Also, I don't think there are Nintendo subsidiaries for every country in Europe, so there's just Nintendo of Europe, not Nintendo of UK, or Nintendo of Italty, just NoE. Though it makes me wonder, why is it we can download 18+ games on 3DS and Wii but not WiiU?

But if you desperately want to buy a 18+ game, 11pm ain't that late, or just buy it from a shop


The law in Germany is only for TV broadcasting. Nintendo are applying a law made for TV onto their online services. Hence why they only need to do parental controls/pins for them to be okay. Honestly if it was applicable to downloads I'm pretty sure Sony and Microsoft would have had their butts sued off by now by the German authorities. And it's the same for the 3DS. It's just Nintendo being over sensitive and not willing to fork out extra costs.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Dark nemisis » 10 Dec 2012, 16:23

So how do people buy 18 rated games in Germany? Are there specialist stores only open after 11pm? I not going to mention how stupid a law this is but why must we (in the UK) abide by it? It's only a server, it isn't legally accountable. No German police have jurisdiction in UK anyway. It's not breaking any law anywhere, never mind diplomatic immunity... ok perhaps a little exterme but you get my point. This is simply laziness, I haven't even got a WiiU yet and it's pissing me off. Just how far is this going to go? no DLC until after 11pm? no update!?

as much as I love NoE (most of the time) for doing a good job this is the weirdest rule I have seen yet. It's so stupid (ok maybe I have slipped it in). I hope this is just a starting up flaw that will be corrected.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby fasttony2006 » 10 Dec 2012, 16:35

This is a crazy law,i have being a nintendo gamer for 20years and never heard anything like this before,i also have ps3 and xbox 360 so when i go on their stores i can buy any game at any time off day,why do nintendo have parental controls or even ask you your date of birth in your nintendo network registration when u will have sait download 2 games at 11pm at night.im from ireland not only are germans controlling our government but now our gaming laws,its crazy it realy is,on a side note i own zombu u physical copy and i love it,but this german law sounds like they can telk nintendo what to put out and what time too.nintendo of america have no problems yet when u read reports about this on other sites,lets just say other fanboys from xbox and sony are laughing at nintendo gamers by this stupid law.sorry for any of my grammer im speed typing on phone lol
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Yirba » 10 Dec 2012, 16:37

triforceguy1 wrote:Also, I don't think there are Nintendo subsidiaries for every country in Europe, so there's just Nintendo of Europe, not Nintendo of UK, or Nintendo of Italty, just NoE.

Nintendo do have an office in Portsmouth. They don't necessarily have to have a subsidiary in every country. They only need to have one in a country where the law does not apply and it should be fine.

triforceguy1 wrote:But if you desperately want to buy a 18+ game, 11pm ain't that late, or just buy it from a shop

Okay, so what if I want to buy a game but it's already 3 am? I have to wait a whole day to play it! Unless I want to take a trip to the shops, which might be a real hassle. In today's world, people want to be able to access material where they want, when they want. Forcing people to wait until 11 pm, or having to go to a shop defeats the whole purpose.

Still, why am I complaining? It's not as if there are any games available for Wii U that I'm interested in anyway. I suppose I just feel sad that a system that had so much potential is now crippled by these issues.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby 25BBB » 10 Dec 2012, 16:45

Don't see why that means we have to have the same restriction here though.. Ah well, it's really overpriced on the eShop anyway. :P
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Oxo64 » 10 Dec 2012, 17:10

Absurd.
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Postby nintendo rules » 10 Dec 2012, 17:20

when i click on you should be able to put your dob in to see if you are 18 they do it on nintendo video
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Pyron12 » 10 Dec 2012, 17:22

triforceguy1 wrote:
MummifiedCoconut wrote:I call BS, the law is only applicable for TV broadcasting. Parental protections/pins for adult rated content should be enough. All Nintendo is doing is being lazy by using a server block and playing it too safe (Guess they are scared in case little Adolf gets a hold of Zombie U and the Daily Heil screams "think of the children,why won't anyone think of the children") thus making life a pain for everyone else in Europe. :roll:


How insensitive and rude.
And that may be for the UK, but it's different for Germany, in fact, some would say it is very strict in Germany

Also, I don't think there are Nintendo subsidiaries for every country in Europe, so there's just Nintendo of Europe, not Nintendo of UK, or Nintendo of Italty, just NoE. Though it makes me wonder, why is it we can download 18+ games on 3DS and Wii but not WiiU?

But if you desperately want to buy a 18+ game, 11pm ain't that late, or just buy it from a shop

You're the one being rude triforceguy because he has a good point. Why do we have to follow their laws? On TV if you have Sky (I don't know what it's like for other providers) you have a PIN for rated 12 films and upwards. Why can't we just do that for downloadable games (and Nintendo TV) that are rated 16 or 18? Much simpler system. As for the final question it's already been explained just read the article.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby CraigEmberson » 10 Dec 2012, 17:29

Which proves we need to be out of Europe once and for all - Germany dictates everything, as they've always wanted. This is ridiculous, people go to bed and sleep before or at that time. 4 hours is nothing... It's shameful.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby CraigEmberson » 10 Dec 2012, 17:30

nintendo rules wrote:when i click on you should be able to put your dob in to see if you are 18 they do it on nintendo video

It should link up to your Club Nintendo account and/or the DOB you've registered with your Nintendo Network ID.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby GloverMist » 10 Dec 2012, 17:47

Look guys, really. I'm not saying I completely agree with this law, but let's be honest here. If you really wanted ZombiU that badly, you could just buy it in the shops. Problem solved. :)
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby lminett » 10 Dec 2012, 17:58

At the moment this isn't that bad but, when more 18 rated games come out, its a bit silly, we don't all live in germany, so they need to sort that out.
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby ThePokekid78 » 10 Dec 2012, 18:10

Makes sense to me...
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby dap005 » 10 Dec 2012, 18:19

Apparently it's not just the German law but the issue with PEGI rules as well (hence why win 8 had issues with 18 plus content). More details are in this blog post: http://kamiongames.com/2012/12/10/nintendo-pegi-restricted-downloads/
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby Donkey Kong Jr. » 10 Dec 2012, 18:42

like i said before, nintendo don't have a clue
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Re: Why you can't download ZombiU before 11pm

Postby danbish » 10 Dec 2012, 18:48

Nintendo Europe is based in Germany and therefore has to abide by German law which doesn't allow for 18-rated content to be made available during the day.

And yes, that's right - for Germany. We're not German, we're English and our law doesn't have that restriction so we shouldn't have to suffer by it. Microsoft's European headquarters are in Germany too and they don't restrict 18 rated content on Xbox Live until after a certain time, they vary it region by region according to local laws - in their case Microsoft UK doesn't have to abide by this. The same rules will apply to us, we're in the UK so we and Nintendo UK follow UK law.

Frankly, I think that's a rubbish excuse.
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